Hi, James. Ben, how are you? Good. Long time no talk to. It has been. It feels like forever.

So we forgot to mention on the last episode that my usual summer foray around the world,

mainly back to Wisconsin, but was about to kick off, which makes it very difficult

to do our regular recorder recording. So, our apologize to everyone who has been eagerly awaiting

the next episode that we are late. It's, uh, it always amuses me how, uh, the closer we get in time

zones, the harder it is to make the recording work.

It's so true. It's so true.

So, yeah, last year we didn't do any during the summer. So this year, we're trying to do a few,

but for sure we're not going to have one the two weeks after this, and then we'll try to do another

one in August. But we're trying to just

you know stay around a little bit but just for logistical reasons it's tough to keep up so I thought

given that we haven't done for a while we're not going to do it for a while we could kind of take

like a summer spectacular approach approach here I think that sounds pretty good there's there's been

plenty to talk about over the past couple of weeks, that's for sure.

There has been. There has been. And we'll probably get like stuck in one thing and never move on.

But we're going to see, we're going to see how this goes, kind of jumping around a little bit.

Sounds like a plan.

Cool. So speaking of getting mired in the mud, I did want to do some follow-up on the article I wrote

this past week about Facebook and Facebook Live. Don't give me that grimace of pain.

Well, it used to be you that didn't want to wait into Facebook and talk about it. And now I think

you've swapped that reluctance over to me, but Facebook and talk about it. And now I think you've

swapped that reluctance over to me, but let's go for it. Come on. So there's one thing I really

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