Hello and welcome to the Renaissance English History Podcast, a member of the Agora Podcast Network.

I'm your host Heather Tusko, and I'm a storyteller who makes history accessible because I believe it's a pathway to understanding who we are, our place in the universe, and our own humanity.

This is episode 79, and today I'm talking with Roland Hoy, an art historian who has a new book out on England's Queens. It's called The Turbulent Crown.

We do talk a bit about

portraiture here. So check out the show notes at Englandcast.com to see pictures

and get the visuals of these paintings. Again, that's Englandcast.com. Also, I'm

putting the transcript there for shows from now on. So if you want to go back and

read something or check something out,

you can do that at the website as well. Okay, let me introduce Roland to you. Roland Hoy

received his degree in art history from Concordia University in Canada. After completing his studies,

he went on to work in interpretive media for California State Parks, the U.S. Forest Service,

and the National Park Service.

Roland has written for Renaissance Magazine and for Tudor Life magazine, and he blogs about 16th century English art and personalities at Tudor Faces, which is TudorFaces.blogspot.com.

Well, my interest has always been in Tudor Porchurch, especially the Six Wives and Anne Boleyn.

I mean, she's a little problematic because we don't have good paintings of her.

The paintings that we have of her, you know, the famous one with a bee necklace,

they were actually from the Elizabethan period and the early Jacobean period, like James I.

So people say, well, you know, he doesn't really look like like her it can't be her because it was painted long after she died but my

argument is that they were mass produced during Queen Elizabeth's time so

therefore there was some kind of stamp of approval about that painting that

likeness okay and there were people at her court who were know, the more senior members who served her father way back then would have remembered what Hamblin looked like. So therefore, I think it's a legitimate image, even though there are different contenders, like there's two Holbein sketches, which one of them is she actually has blonde hair, so I don't think that's her at all. You might, I don't know if I think your viewers might know it. Your listeners will know. Yeah, I'll add it in his show notes as well. Yeah, and it's another one, but, you know, who knows? But my bet it's the famous one that works. I think that's her. The black book garden image, I came across that in the footnote because I was researching

a six wives like I always do.

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