Hi, James.

Ben, how are you?

I'm okay. How are you?

I'm good. I'm continuing to feel a bit better than I was the week before.

Everything's on an upward trajectory.

The weather's starting to turn into this beautiful Californian springy summary type stuff that's just amazing.

I have no cause for complaint whatsoever.

It is, the weather's starting to turn here, where that means it's starting to turn

sweltering. And, you know, for the podcast, of course, I turn off the air conditioner and

all that sort of stuff. So which long-term listeners have heard my to rails about this and

don't want to hear about again? Suffering for the listeners. I'm sure everyone appreciates it. Well, I mean,

it goes without saying I have to suffer for the listeners everything about. You got me.

It's almost like you put it on a tea. All I do is swing the bat. Yeah, there we go. Isn't that my job, Ben?

I appreciate it.

I always making me look good, but you know, you're always making me look mean.

Neither of those things are true.

You, on the subject of looking good, I must compliment you on this week's article on Apple and organizational

structures. They are topics that we've touched on, but the way you threaded it together was

super compelling, super clear, and I thought you did a really good job. Well, thank you. I appreciate it.

It is something we've touched on, and I think there's a podcast we had a few weeks ago, I think where we were talking about Amazon. And we kind of had an aside about Apple. And it's and this, this services issue and the way that the organization is structured. And it's something that we, we've, multiple times and I guess what what I was this

was this is the chance like in some respects you know it's good to have like the place to point to

and be like this is the point that I keep trying that I keep trying to make and so um I was good I had

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