Episode 07: 19 Times

Love and Radio: Blood Memory

Love and Radio

Documentary, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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“ I believe there's order and beauty and meaning in the universe. I believe in goodness and not evil. And if I found out that was all not true, it would be devastating to me.” As the years tick by, Michael and Ariel start to lose hope he’ll ever be free – while Heather fears the people in charge may finally fall for Michael’s charisma. SUPPORT THE PODCAST! https://loveandradio.org/member PLAYLIST! https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/weight https://banabila.bandcamp.com/track/closing-time-the-party-is-over https://banabila.bandcamp.com/track/waiting-in-moonlight https://inter-bellum.bandcamp.com/track/every-word-in-the-english-language-interbellum https://tambien.bandcamp.com/album/memory-amb https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/inmutable https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/tunnbaq https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/hidroslidaridad https://entranas.bandcamp.com/track/g-lido https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/afuera https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/17-minutos https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/a-bao-a-qu https://ab-henrik-meierkord.bandcamp.com/track/erinnerungen-drawing-from-memory-odnu-remix https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/c https://soundcloud.com/tambi3n/2-paisaje-oblicuo https://entranas.bandcamp.com/track/tierra-templada https://eileanrec.bandcamp.com/track/red-grey-orange https://orietachrem.bandcamp.com/track/punta-uva https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/covina https://eileanrec.bandcamp.com/track/blue-light-marcus-fischer-version https://eileanrec.bandcamp.com/track/red-grey-orange https://eileanrec.bandcamp.com/track/blue-christopher-hipgrave-remix https://glitchbird.bandcamp.com/track/calima https://quixosis.bandcamp.com/track/descomposicion-iv-triple-n https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/only-us https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/sagitarii https://glitchbird.bandcamp.com/track/aube https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/kon https://jennifercastle.bandcamp.com/track/justice https://quixosis.bandcamp.com/track/ant-tesis-2 CREDITS! Additional Voices: Katie Mingle, Betsy Corcoran, James Spring, Lu Olkowski, Nigel Poor, and Samantha Harvey. Series Producer: Meera Kumar Managing Editor: Robin Amer Additional Reporting: Brian Krans and Anya Schultz Fact Checking: Nicole Pasulka Contributing Editor: Allison Herrera Visuals: Orla Mc Hardy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Previously on blood memory.
0:09.0	In about 2005, I got a case of an Erin Brotherhood defendant, Michael McElhaney, or Big Mac,
0:16.0	as he called him.
0:17.0	In that moment, I thought, I'm going to become a prosecutor and I'll lock all these fuckers up.
0:21.9	Okay, Mac, you want to send me to Michael Thompson, who bucked the whole AB, dropped out, and testified against them?
0:32.5	And you think I'm going to go there and convince him to take back his testimony, to recant.
0:39.1	He's full of shit. That's all there is to it. He can be as good looking as he wants. He's lying.
0:42.7	He believes his own lies. He's truly pathological. I do believe that he believes his own lies.
0:51.9	From love and radio, you're listening to Blood Memory.
0:55.8	I'm Nick VanderKolk.
0:57.2	This is episode 7, 19 times.
1:02.8	Do you want to step outside for a minute and get some fresh air?
1:05.4	Sure. I look tired.
1:06.5	Some water.
1:08.2	You have been talking for, you know, seven hours today, so...
1:11.6	Really?
1:12.6	Close to.
1:13.6	Hmm. Talky old thing, aren't I?
1:15.6	Yeah.
1:16.6	Yeah, let's stretch.
1:20.6	I talked to Ariel this morning.
1:28.3	Oh yeah?
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