So this leads directly, though, into Val's most psychotic era, in my opinion, which is...

198?

Yes.

But she becomes Hitler's secretary or whatever?

X-Men, X-Men.

In the 21st century, people mutants led by Magneto aimed to destroy the world.

Only hope is X-Men.

Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of homo

superior.

I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today is returning guest Patrick Sullivan,

artist extraordinaire art director at Simon Element at Simon & Schuster.

Returning from episode 10 on Mystique, it is now 50 episodes later, This is episode 60. In that episode, we joked around about

perhaps doing an episode on, as Patrick called her, The Bitch Val Cooper, a character who is pretty

essential to Mystique's publication history. And I want to thank you for stepping in, Patrick, because my

initial guest, Zach Rabrov, had to pull out, but everybody gives Zach some love. He'll be back on the

pod when he is able. Patrick, how are you today? I'm doing terrific. Thank you so much for having

me back. Much like Val Cooper, I've learned very little

since the last time we've been together, and I plan to repeat all my same mistakes. Val's

commitment to doing pretty much the exact same thing every time is a little bit admirable.

It's really, really good. I mean, we'll get into it, but her level of reset is sort of like continuity

proof. It's just... No matter how many storylines, character arcs, tragedies, Valerie Cooper experiences,

whenever she pops back up under a new writer, they just kind of set her back to basics. And I

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