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CEREBRO

Episode 038: Joanna Cargill (feat. Mike Carey)

CEREBRO

Connor Goldsmith

Arts, Fiction, Books, Visual Arts, Science Fiction

4.8874 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2021

⏱️ 141 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 38 of CEREBRO, Connor and celebrated writer Mike Carey (X-Men Legacy, Lucifer, The Unwritten, The Girl With All The Gifts) praise the power of Joanna Cargill, a.k.a. Frenzy! A longtime enemy of the X-Men, Cargill decided to change her ways during Carey's beloved time writing the franchise, and is now a fan favorite antihero. PLUS: Tempo! The Children of the Vault! Lady Mastermind!

The CEREBRO character file on Frenzy begins at 1:16:08.

(Content Advisory: Joanna's story includes child abuse, eugenics, ableism, brainwashing, and genocide.)

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she says basically anything is permissible in a time of war.

0:03.0

And somebody turned around and says, since when are we at war?

0:06.0

And she says, since we were born.

0:08.0

X-Men, X-Men.

0:09.0

In the 21st century, people mutants, led by Magneto, aim to destroy the world.

0:20.0

The only hope is X-Men.

0:25.8

Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast,

0:28.7

where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of Homo Superior.

0:32.4

I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today is Mike Carey,

0:36.6

a kame, M.R. Carey, a writer of comic books, novels,

0:41.2

films, known perhaps to the general public most for the book The Girl with All the Gifts,

0:45.3

which was adapted into a major motion picture for which he wrote the screenplay, as I recall.

0:50.3

Yes, correct, Mike? I think you did. Yeah, that's impressive to me. Adapting yourself is very hard.

0:55.1

But known to comics fans for his beloved. I don't know if you know, but people love this run.

1:01.4

We talk about it all the time. His run on the X-Men, starting with the adjective-less title in the lead-up to Messiah Complex, then through Messiah Complex when it became

1:12.2

X-Men Legacy for two lengthy arcs, one centered around Charles Xavier and one centered around

1:18.8

Rogue. There was supposed to be a third arc with Moonstar, is my understanding. I feel like

1:24.6

I've read that somewhere, but it didn't quite pan out.

1:28.0

We talked about a number of possible characters who could rotate into the spotlight, but

1:33.1

I left the book and obviously... Right. Sye took it and did Legion, which is an incredible run

1:38.6

in its own right. One of the characters who came to prominence in this run through the Age of X storyline, which

1:47.4

was an alternate reality storyline that ends up impacting our heroes back on Earth 616, as I insist

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