Episode 015: Jean Grey (feat. Sara Century)

CEREBRO

Connor Goldsmith

Science Fiction, Arts, Books, Visual Arts, Fiction

4.8 • 815 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2020

⏱️ 167 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 15 of CEREBRO, Connor and comics critic Sara Century become fire and life incarnate! The only woman on the 1963 X-Men team created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, Jean Grey began publication as the danger-prone Marvel Girl. Under writer Chris Claremont she was reimagined as Phoenix, the most powerful superhero — and threat to the universe! — at Marvel.

The CEREBRO character file on Jean Grey begins at 49:12.

(Content Advisory: Jean's story includes brainwashing, rape, genocide, slavery, and suicide.)

The episode cover features art of Jean Grey by Jack Kirby, Werner Roth, Dave Cockrum, John Byrne, Walt Simonson, Jim Lee, Phil Jimenez, and Russell Dauterman.

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0:00.0	There's whole dormant periods of X-Men for Gene, you know, where you're just kind of like, well, no Gene.
0:05.5	Or like, Gene wasn't too great in this one or whatever.
0:08.8	Like, Gene was poorly written, whatever, whatever.
0:10.9	Listen, I embrace Emma, horse murder and all.
0:13.2	Like, you have to just, you know, be on board or not be on board.
0:16.1	You settle in.
0:17.3	X-Men, X-Men. In the 21st century, evil mutants led by Magneto aimed to destroy the world.
0:29.3	The only hope is X-Men.
0:35.3	Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of Homo Superior.
0:41.8	I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today is horror writer and comic critic Sarah Century.
0:47.0	You may know Sarah's work from The Sci-Fi Wire and many other outlets, and she is also the co-host of the Bishes on Comics podcast.
0:54.9	She is here with me today to talk about a character dear to her heart and a character
1:00.2	I, as you may know, as a listener of this podcast, have a very fraught, complicated, but
1:05.4	ultimately loving relationship with Jean, Elaine Gray, aka Girl, and sometimes The Phoenix.
1:12.6	Sarah, how are you today?
1:14.8	Oh, I am doing great.
1:16.3	I am so excited for this conversation.
1:19.2	Every time Jean Grey is brought up to me, I'm just like, all right, well, here we go.
1:23.6	I'm going to be here for the next three and a half hours, just talking.
1:27.0	Yeah, I think that
1:28.5	the joy of this podcast has been finding people who really love characters that I either have
1:33.7	mixed feelings on or have never thought an enormous amount about. Like, the second episode was
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