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X-Men, X-Men.

In the 21st century, people mutants led by Magneto aimed to destroy the world.

The only hope is X-Men.

Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of homo superior.

I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today is Patrick Sullivan, art director at the Tiller Press nonfiction imprint at Simon & Schuster.

He's here to chat with me about Raven Darkholm, the mercenary metamorph mystique, also known as Mallory Brickman,

Leni Sauber, Amichai Benvinisti, Ronnie Lake, Millicent Hardwick, Byron Biggs, Fox, Holt Adler,

and Raven Wagner, among countless other names we haven't been fortunate enough to learn.

Patrick, how are you today? I'm good. I'm so excited to be here.

Thank you for joining me. You were one of the first people to reach out when I said that I was

doing this, and I'm glad that you are here. Well, right. And I think, and I heard this mention

on previous episodes already, but I was just absolutely convinced that this character would have

already been taken if I didn't speak up. Yeah, I mean, you have to, really. And you're not wrong.

There are a couple people who were late to the party on this one. And I was like, oh, she's taken.

I mean, I guess it's, you know, it depends on your perspective of whether or not she is actually an X-Men. I wasn't even

sure how your layout. Oh, yeah. No, the way I'm, so just for the record, I've talked about this on

Twitter a little bit, but what I've decided is they don't have to be a mutant and they don't

have to be a hero. They just have to primarily be an X-Men character. I can't wait till you're like six months in and someone does like a Val Cooper.

I am excited to talk about Val Cooper today. I like Val Cooper. Okay, good. Me's so. But

Val Cooper is a good example, though, of a character I absolutely would be willing to cover.

You know, the Warren episode last week was basically in many ways a Candy Southern episode,

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