Episode 008: Bobby Drake (feat. Anthony Oliveira)

CEREBRO

Connor Goldsmith

Science Fiction, Arts, Books, Visual Arts, Fiction

4.8 • 815 Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2020

⏱️ 148 minutes

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Summary

In the GIANT-SIZE Episode 8 of CEREBRO, Connor kibitzes about Iceman with academic and Marvel writer Anthony Oliveira (War of the Realms: War Scrolls, Empyre: Emperor Hulkling)! One of the original X-Men from 1963, Bobby Drake is the only classic Stan Lee/Jack Kirby creation to be later established as a gay character.

The CEREBRO character file on Iceman begins at 58:55.

(Content Advisory: Bobby's story includes homophobia and racism from other characters. This episode also discusses outing and intra-LGBT tensions.)

The episode cover features art of Iceman by Jack Kirby, Walt Simonson, Whilce Portacio, and Matteo Lolli.

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0:00.0	The other thing about Bobby is, you know, people talk about how he had female love interests,
0:04.4	but then you look at who they were.
0:05.9	And it's like, yeah, every homosexual in the world wants to date Polaris.
0:10.8	Are you kidding?
0:11.6	Right.
0:12.6	Dating Polaris makes you gay.
0:14.2	Dating Polaris is gay.
0:16.0	X-Men, X-Men.
0:19.2	In the 21st century, evil mutants, led by Magneto, aimed to destroy the world.
0:28.1	Only hope is X-Men.
0:34.1	Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of homo superior.
0:39.9	I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today is writer in academic Anthony Olivera, the only recent Marvel writer I've personally had sex with.
0:47.2	Wow, starting spicy, starting spicy.
0:50.0	Tony and I dated long before you'd ever heard of either of us. And back in the day, we had quite the following on Twitter.
0:56.4	So I felt like the fans would want to know it was a reunion episode.
1:00.4	Marvel fans will know him best from the War of the Realm story,
1:03.1	My Drag Brunch with Loki and the Lords of Empire Emperor Hulkling one shot,
1:07.1	both of which starred the Young Avengers characters, Hulkling and Wiccan.
1:11.3	Anthony, thank you so much for being my guest.
1:12.9	How are you doing today?
1:14.1	Thank you for having me.
1:15.4	I am, you know, it's, I feel like every episode of your podcast begins.
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