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CEREBRO

Episode 002: Kurt Wagner (feat. Daniel Kibblesmith)

CEREBRO

Connor Goldsmith

Visual Arts, Fiction, Books, Science Fiction, Arts

4.8874 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2020

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 2 of CEREBRO, Connor and Marvel writer Daniel Kibblesmith (Loki, Lockjaw) celebrate the fuzzy blue elf: Kurt Wagner, best known as Nightcrawler! Since his 1975 debut, the debonair swashbuckler has been one of the most recognizable and beloved X-Men.

The CEREBRO character file on Nightcrawler begins at 13:41.

(Content advisory: Kurt's main love interest is his adoptive/foster sister, if that skeeves! This episode also discusses antiziganism and the Holocaust.)

The episode cover features art of Nightcrawler by Ed McGuinness.

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0:00.0

when your lowest lane is your foster sister it's not like you you don't have a choice you can't escape it

0:06.4

xmen xman in the 21st century evil mutants led by magneto aim to destroy the world

0:14.9

the only hope is X-Men.

0:24.1

Welcome to Cerebro, the X-Men podcast, where a homo and his friends dig deep into the history of Homo Superior.

0:30.6

I'm your host, Connor Goldsmith, and with me today for episode two is Daniel Kibblesmith,

0:35.4

a five-time Emmy-nominated former staff writer on The Late Show

0:38.9

with Stephen Colbert, and a founding editor at the comedy site Clickhole. He has also written for

0:44.1

Marvel and DC Comics, most recently at Marvel as the writer of the ongoing series Loki,

0:49.6

and he is here with me today to talk about Kurt Wagner, the X-Men, known as Nightcrawler. Thanks for

0:55.5

dropping in, Daniel. Thank you for having me. And I'm glad that we committed so early to Wagner.

1:00.6

Oh, I mean, yeah. How else would you say? I mean, Wagner, I guess. I, well, you know, for 25 years.

1:07.1

Yeah, because I was, when I was a child, I certainly did, but he's German. I mean,

1:12.2

we got to, no, actually, I'm taking pronunciation very seriously here because I know that there are

1:17.2

a million comic, you know, nerds who would get mad at me if I did something wrong. So I actually,

1:23.2

this episode was a real, was a real white knuckle kind of moment because I spent at least

1:28.7

four or five hours last night looking at like six different dialects of the Romani language,

1:36.6

trying to decide how to pronounce Margali Sardosh, which is what I've decided to go with,

1:42.5

because I think she's French, but I think the name

1:45.0

Zardosh is supposed to be Hungarian, except that it seems that Claremont just made it up. So I'm not

1:50.1

entirely clear, but that's what I'm going with. You are welcome to pronounce it however you want,

1:54.2

because certainly I think I said Zardos my whole life until now. Definitely up until this point. You'll probably hear me use both.

2:02.9

So if Chris Claremont listens to the pod at any point and would like to get in touch,

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