EP82: The Time When The ACLU and NRA Agreed, When “Press Your Luck” Didn’t Require Much Luck and The Story of Charleston: The Way Life Used to Be, And Perhaps, Is Supposed to Be
Our American Stories
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4.6 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 27 September 2021
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Our American Stories, learn about how ACLU and the NRA have been fighting for our shared constitutional rights; Matt Parker, a comedian and mathematician from Australia, tells the story of the time Michael Larson was shockingly good at the game show "Press Your Luck," and gives a look into why computers can’t be random; and Tommy Dew shares the story of Charleston—from the American Revolution to today.
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00:00 The Time When The ACLU and NRA Agreed
08:00 When “Press Your Luck” Didn’t Require Much Luck
18:00 The Story of Charleston: The Way Life Used to Be, And Perhaps, Is Supposed to Be
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| 0:00.0 | This is Lee Habib, and this is our American stories, and we tell stories about everything here on this show. |
| 0:16.9 | And one of our favorite things to talk about is the rule of law in our lives, and it's an easy thing to take for granted, folks. |
| 0:24.3 | And today's story is from Brian House. |
| 0:26.3 | Brian is an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU, which is generally considered to be a progressive organization. |
| 0:34.7 | And so many folks were confused when they defended the constitutional rights |
| 0:39.3 | of an organization that isn't one. Here's Brian. |
| 0:46.8 | So this case is National Rifle Association versus Cuomo. It's a retaliation case. And so, |
| 0:53.3 | you know, the basic legal argument is that the New York |
| 0:57.3 | State government was retaliating against the NRA because of the NRA's protected expression and |
| 1:03.8 | viewpoint. And in particular, the NRA's gun promotion advocacy. The specifics of the case are that |
| 1:10.4 | the New York Department of Financial |
| 1:13.1 | Services issued a regulatory guidance to all the entities that are regulated by the Department |
| 1:19.6 | of Financial Services, and those are primarily banks, insurance companies, stuff like that. |
| 1:24.4 | And the guidance stated something like, you should be cautious about the risks, including |
| 1:29.6 | the reputational risks, of associating with the NRA or other gun promotion groups. And shortly after |
| 1:37.2 | that guidance was issued, the Department of Financial Services actually entered into two consent |
| 1:42.9 | agreements, which are kind of like legal agreements not to continue a prosecution as long as certain conditions are met, with two, I believe they were insurance providers that provided certain affinity insurance programs in connection with the NRA. And those consent agreements basically said, you're not going to do any more business with the NRA, |
| 2:01.0 | period, and they levied a bunch of fines and stuff like that. |
| 2:04.3 | And so a number of other insurance providers, you know, the NRA alleged at least, a number |
| 2:09.6 | of other insurance providers, seeing this guidance and seeing the consent orders that were |
| 2:15.0 | entered against these insurance companies basically got the message |
| 2:18.3 | that any sort of association with the NRA, you would get the full force of the New York financial |
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