EP755 - Stop Playing Small: Lessons from Mike Mills' Transformation
The Brad Jensen Show
Brad Jensen
4.9 • 792 Ratings
🗓️ 3 April 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with Mike Mills. Mike is a past participant of Next Level Experience and someone I have a ton of respect for as a man.
We get into his journey over the last couple of years, including completing 75 Hard not once, but twice. But what stood out most in this conversation is that it wasn't about the physical transformation. It was about what it did for him mentally, emotionally, and the level of ownership he's now operating from.
Mike shares how going through NLE helped shift his perspective and pushed him to step into a bigger version of himself. Not just for his own life, but now in the work he's doing helping other men level up across mind, body, and spirit.
We also touched on something deeper. The passing of his father from ALS and how that experience forced him to take a hard look at his life. It lit a fire under him to stop waiting, stop playing small, and really take control of the direction he's heading.
This is a powerful conversation about growth, responsibility, and what it actually looks like to become the man you know you're capable of being.
If you're someone who knows you've got more in the tank, this one will hit.
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| 0:00.0 | You are now listening to the Brad Jensen show with Health and Mindset Optimization podcast. |
| 0:04.6 | Let's go. Welcome back to another edition of the Brad Jensen show. |
| 0:27.7 | I'm stoked to have you guys here. |
| 0:29.6 | I'm thrilled to have my good friend Mike Mills in studio. |
| 0:33.0 | Mike was a past participant of Next Level Experience and now is coaching other men. |
| 0:54.7 | He's got a really impactful story and I'm pumped you on here. Thanks, dude. Yeah, thanks for having me on to it. I really appreciate it. First podcast? First podcast, yeah. That's good, dude. Yeah, I was telling you earlier, it's kind of come full circle, right? Like I listened to you five or six years ago, my backyard pulling weeds and helped me figure out my macros. |
| 0:58.4 | Did you know I was your neighbor? Oh, it wasn't your neighbor then, yeah, huh? No, not yet. Oh. |
| 1:03.7 | Did you know I moved in shortly after that? I feel like I did. I think we saw each other trick or treating like that. That's what it was. And you were like, oh, hey, dude, I follow you or whatever. |
| 1:07.2 | You yelled it from across the street. That's right. Yep. And then joined your program. |
| 1:11.1 | And then I moved. Yep. Yeah. Wow. But your house is better than mine. |
| 1:17.1 | Just millions of toys, man. You know how it is. |
| 1:20.2 | Twin, five-year-old, six-year-old. Six-year-old. When they turned six? |
| 1:24.2 | They turned six last November. Oh, so they'll be seven this year. Yeah. |
| 1:29.2 | Kid, we played them in flag football and Dom was like, they're good. I'm like, right? Yeah, they really picked it up this year, but they missed Dom, dude. Jackson keeps asking him to hang out with him again. So might have to schedule a little play date. Yeah, dude, would love that. |
| 1:43.1 | Yeah, so that gives me hope because, |
| 1:45.0 | Dom is just, I mean, listen, none of the kids. |
| 1:48.5 | There's one kid I coach who, like, you can tell would be good if he could, like, stop, like, you know, flicking his partner as a teammate. |
| 1:56.1 | I was like, you pay attention. |
| 1:58.1 | But Dom's, like, but then again, I was not the most gifted, like naturally athletic kid either. So I'm probably like responsible for that. Yeah. I think it takes like a year or two as well. Was that Dom's first year? Yeah. Yeah. The boys, the first year, they kind of got it. And then after that, they're like, okay, I know what to do now. Pull the flag. and I just told them run to the sideline and turn up and you're going to score and that's all you got to do. |
| 2:20.9 | They were good. |
| 2:22.1 | Yeah. that they're like okay I know what to do now pull the flag and I just told them run to the sideline and turn up and you're gonna score and that's all you gotta do they were good yeah I was impressed they're a little speedy was it Jalen that's better is one of them better than the other not that |
| 2:26.0 | they're not gonna listen to this podcast so you can check I know right I think Jackson was |
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