Welcome to episode 4 of the all-new National Podcast coming to you from Capitol Hill,

and I'm delighted to say, first of all, I'd like to say thank you to all of you who have

listened, downloaded and subscribed.

I'd like to say we're ranked eighth in news podcasts right now already, after just

three days.

And that is because you guys are out there sharing their subscribing.

Please keep that momentum up.

And if you do, it means I get to attract some of the world's best guests, such as the

one I have in the...

I see, Make Shift Studio, we're going to keep making it even better in here, and the

quality is going to keep improving, but in the Make Shift Studio with me is none other

than our good friend filmmaker, Matthew Taylor, joins us in studio.

Great to be here, thank you for having me.

Well, I hadn't done with you.

I wasn't done with your introduction yet, but you jumped in very quickly.

So keen, so keen.

No, Matt, seriously, you have been an inspiration to us over years and years.

I mean, I remember, I think I met you at the Bright Bar party at the Embassy, and they

had the cigars being rolled out back, and I think you had some awful silver jacket on

or something.

I mean, if the audience thinks I dress well, think of the total opposite way I dress, and

that's how Matt Taylor dresses.

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