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The Vinyl Guide - Artist Interviews for Record Collectors and Music Nerds

Ep395: Grading & Slabbing Vinyl with VMG - Vintage Media Grading

The Vinyl Guide - Artist Interviews for Record Collectors and Music Nerds

Nate Goyer

Music, Music History, Music Interviews

4.7579 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

For decades collectors of comic books, coins & sportscards have protected their collectibles by having them professionally graded & slabbed. The team behind Vintage Media Grading (VMG) shares how their process can be a gamechanger for vinyl record collectors.

Topics include:

  • Vinyl grading is tricky – why use VMG?
  • VMG Grading comes from Goldmine standard
  • Using best practices from Baseball Cards & Comic Book gradings
  • Walking through the grading process
  • Supplying info, provenance, etc
  • What would get rejecting for rating?
  • How other industries get graded (paintings, cards)
  • Is there an appeals process for a grade?
  • The difficulty in getting a "10" grading
  • Grading is consistent no matter the rarity
  • 12" records now, 7" and 10" under development
  • Can they do double or triple LPs?
  • What about inserts, special LP additions, etc
  • Ability to change album details if new information arises
  • Vinyl has much more complexity than other graded items
  • VMG Focuses only on facts, cannot state assumptions
  • How VMG labels promotional copies
  • Their sources for determining authentic pressings and info
  • Not relying on crowd-sourced materials
  • Does VMG do play-testing?
  • Hot-stampers may not be right for VMG
  • The impact of the plastic case on records and covers
  • Can the plastic case be opened?
  • Autographed records, backstage passes, etc
  • Will they work with acetates and test pressings?
  • Working with international customers
  • Best practices for shipping to VMG
  • How are the records handled through the grading process
  • Length of time the grading process takes
  • Not just collectible records but personally important records
  • Interview wrap up

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If you like records, just starting a collection or are an uber-nerd with a house-full of vinyl, this is the podcast for you. Nate Goyer is The Vinyl Guide and discusses all things music and record-related

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.3

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0:09.7

Discount code, vinyl guide 10. And now, on with the show.

0:16.3

Well, hey, everyone, it's Nate. Welcome to episode 395 of The Vinyl Guide, the podcast for record collectors and music nerds.

0:23.7

And today, we've got some special guests covering quite a controversial topic for record collectors, professional vinyl grading.

0:32.5

And for that topic, we have on the show Michael Harwood, as well as Chad and Paul Brayman of VMG, Vintage Media Grading,

0:40.7

a company that is attempting to do with vinyl records, what has been done in the past to all sorts of collectibles,

0:47.7

including sports cards, comic books, video games, and more.

0:52.0

And I must admit, this concept of professional vinyl grading does not come

0:58.3

easy to me. I mean, for starters, having your vinyl graded and slabbed means the record becomes

1:05.1

unplayable. It's locked away in plastic. The way VMG grades these records, then puts the sleeve and vinyl within

1:12.2

this tamper-proof plastic case, means that it's no longer able to be played on a daily basis.

1:17.8

And the concept of unplayable records will always sit strangely with any record collector.

1:23.6

I mean, after all, aren't records supposed to be played and enjoyed?

1:27.6

And to me, the answer is yes, and for the vast majority of my personal records, that will remain the case.

1:33.4

However, at the same time, I also have several records that are highly collectible that I don't play a lot.

1:40.0

I mean, an immediate example is my Beatles butcher cover.

1:43.2

It's never been a great-sounding record.

1:45.2

That's a perfect example of a record that could be graded and slabbed.

1:48.6

I've also got a USA promo pressing of Stoge's Funhouse, or a first tan pressing of Sam Hain

1:54.3

Unholy Passion.

1:55.6

I mean, these are beautiful records that I can get the music from any time from a variety

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