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The podcast were two friends, Chuck Wine, Chathru Crime, and unleash their worst

Minnesota.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm Amanda, I'm Lucy.

And this week we have a very special fan pick brought to you by Jenna Bradley and her rats whose names

will mean nothing to Lucy but everything to me her rats names are Martin and Zenitor and if that doesn't ring a

bell it's because it is from the brief but exciting and exquisite tabletop

role-playing-game podcast that I did called could have been heroes a couple of years ago

and there are characters in there named Martin and Zenitor and Jenna named her rats after them

Oh, and that makes me so happy! That's so nice. So fricket cute I noticed that neither of them are named

Gwendoline like after my character but that's fine we'll talk about this later Jenna but for now

her topic selection is North Carolina crimes I think we just did South Carolina crimes we did and I committed the crime of

mixing up a bunch of cities that are actually from North Carolina with South

Carolina so now this is like my opportunity to either redeem myself or just do it again.

Do it again.

Be worse.

Even it out.

I strive to be worse.

Yes.

Mm-hmm. There's one thing that is consistent with your ambitions.

That'll always get worse. I'm doing it. That's good. I'm proud of you.

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