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Crimes and Consequences

EP300: The Story Behind 'The Thing About Pam'

Crimes and Consequences

Crimes and Consequences

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.6868 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

What happens when a quiet Midwestern woman with a soft voice, a churchgoing image, and a smile that seemed almost comforting becomes the center of one of the most disturbing murder conspiracies in modern true crime?In this Early Release episode of Crimes and Consequences, we unravel the twisted real-life story behind NBC’s hit series The Thing About Pam and the woman at the center of it all: Pam Hupp.This is not just the story behind a TV show.
It’s the anatomy of a real-life predator who hid in plain sight.

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0:00.0

This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

0:21.4

Listener discretion is advised.

0:33.7

Hi, I'm Shannon.

0:35.9

Hi, I'm Tanya.

0:37.0

And we are Crimes and Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast.

0:42.8

What up, Shannon?

0:45.7

What up, Tanya, Bobanya?

0:49.0

How is your Memorial?

0:50.1

Girl.

0:51.4

How was it?

0:53.2

How was your Memorial weekend?

0:54.7

You barbecue?

0:55.7

Actually, no.

0:56.9

What?

0:57.8

I know.

0:58.6

We just stayed home with my mother gone and my mother-in-law gone.

1:02.6

Nobody really does a get together.

1:04.4

And I guess I could have one at my house, but I don't want to.

1:08.3

For God's sakes, it's Memorial weekend.

1:10.9

Yeah. So it was just us and it was nice.

1:14.8

We went out to eat.

1:16.0

So it was good.

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