In episode 181 of the Guitar Music Theory podcast. If you're fascinated by how

guitar music actually works, why certain songs connect, why some chord progressions feel

inevitable, and how theory turns into real music, you're in the right place. I'm Desi

Surnah, guitarist, teacher, and author of Lead Guitar Unlocked, fretboard theory, guitar theory

for dummies, and more. On this podcast, we don't treat music theory as an academic exercise. We treat it as a

practical tool, something you can hear, feel, and immediately apply to your playing. Chords, scales,

improvisation, songwriting, it all connects, and my goal is to help you see the big picture so you

stop guessing and start playing with confidence.

Today, I'm welcoming back a very special guest, my daughter, Lila.

We're talking about the top pop hits of 2025.

Now, before you tune out because you think, I don't play pop music, hang with me for a second.

Pop songs are a gold mine for guitarists.

They're simple on the surface, but underneath you'll find strong chord movement, smart

melodic choices, and groove and phrasing ideas that translate beautifully to guitar jams and improvisation.

And who better to give perspective on today's pop music than a 13-year-old who is

literally the target audience? We'll look at songs from Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Sabrina

Carpenter, and more, pulling out ideas you can actually use on guitar. Plus, this is a rare

daddy-daughter conversation I think you'll really enjoy.

It's going to be a great discussion, but before we dive in, I want to speak directly to a specific group of listeners.

If you've been playing guitar for years, own quality gear, understand some theory, but you still feel like your progress comes in short bursts instead of steady momentum? This part is for you.

In January, I'm opening enrollment for my Winter Guitar Intensive.

This is a 12-week high-commitment program where I work closely with a small group of adult guitarists

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