A small group refuses to go along with the large group,

and the splitting line between these two groups, between the masses and its opponents,

runs through every pre-existing group, through companies, families, groups of friends,

and so on.

The formation of a mass is energetically so powerful that it splits all pre-existing groups into and divides them in two

entirely new camps, a group that goes along with the narrative and a group that refuses to go

along with the narrative.

Hey all, today I have a very serious podcast, probably one of the most important I've ever done,

in my opinion.

And it's because I've just speed read a book all morning called the psychology of totalitarianism.

And I think it's a crucial book, one of the most important books I've ever read actually.

And I've read quite a few. Believe me, this book shouldn't just be on Kindle.

This should be on everyone's shelf.

And it should be a book that's handed to children, you know,

and young adults to better understand the world we live in,

especially after the last two years.

And I'm delighted to say I have the author here today,

Matthias Desmond, I think.

Is that the right pronunciation, Matthias?

No. The right pronunciation Matthias no the right the yes Matias sorry this book is astonishing I mean in May 2020 I spoke to a

senior leader in my network who had an incredibly insightful picture of what was happening.

And I didn't quite believe him.

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