Hello everybody, welcome to Life with Nat, little Nat's niece is spesh because I'm going on holiday. So whilst I'm away, we're doing

a few little random ones because I never want you to be without a pod on a Monday and Thursday

and I know you'll appreciate it. Hello, girls. Hi. We all good? Yeah, all good. Thank you.

Excellent. Excellent. So there's a little thread that I've been chatting to a few people about, which is freedom, children, screen times. Was it better in the 80s and 90s when everyone was playing out? They weren't on games. It's just such a broad subject, but I've not spoken to you both about it. So I thought, let's just kick off

and see what you think about it all. I was actually listening to a pod the other night. It was a bit

deeper. It was about women's rights and freedom, just on the point of freedom, and saying,

obviously, is there a thing as too much freedom or too much choice?

Which is interesting, isn't it?

Because it's like that if you go in a shop, right, and there's four brands of cheddar versus 16,

some people find if there's too many choices or too much freedom, it's too overwhelming

and then people don't know how to actually make a decision. Yeah. Whereas if you're a bit more targeted, yeah, interesting. It is interesting. I also feel like it's the person you are, because you're a nightmare in the shop. Indecisive. Oh, yeah, like you say that, it can be overwhelming for some people. Some people wouldn't have an issue with that.

I was thinking like in a restaurant, you know, when you go to a restaurant and the menu's huge.

I can't bear that.

That is true because you just have so much choice.

Always going back to food.

But you know what?

It's interesting because I worked with children.

So I worked in a nursery and then I remember coming to look at I worked with children. So I worked in a nursery.

And then I remember coming to look at nurseries with you for Alfie.

And it's all just what the children.

So when we used to have specific times, you'd have messy playing, then you'd have story time.

Then you'd have singing.

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