Hello and welcome to Let's Talk About It with Taylor Nolan. I am here with the wonderful

kid vendor. Hey, it's good to be back. Yeah, it's a little bit of housekeeping. I've been

traveling a bunch and finally back in Seattle now. So super happy to see your face again

and to be in person recording. Let's talk about it. It's good to be here. So today what

we're talking about is gun violence and mental health. There's so much there. I think we

should just acknowledge that there's a scratch right on the surface and that's as far as

we're but finding a middle space that's not on the fringes of the conversation, hopefully.

Yes, a middle ground. I love that we both took a very deep inhale. I was like, yeah, okay,

this is a heavy topic. There were a lot of feelings around it. And, you know, there was

the recent shooting at the school in Florida and that just kind of got going on some

more research, but like that's not the first one that's happened this year. And we've

just been seeing these trends that keep coming up and where mental health is kind of being

attacked and is being, you know, the root cause of why this is happening. And, you know,

there's a lot of different angles here we can take. There's a lot of there's a lot of

polarizing happening on social media and even in just the media itself and even in Congress.

And so we want to try to have a productive conversation here with someone who appears

to be on an opposite side than we are. I think by not necessarily default, but you

living here where we do where in Seattle, the gun culture is in this prevalent. And so finding

the way to have these conversations is more difficult, more people that I talk to agree

with kind of the more liberal side. And I think for me going into this, I'm really trying

to put on my exploration pants here, my curious hat to really hear out the other side of this.

You know, I'm not someone who's ever had experience with guns, but I don't think that that

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