Hello, Wine Embers. My name is Jesse Meakum with another episode of The Wine Em Podcast,

where we teach you four rules to help you stop a paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt,

and save more money today. I'm very happy to have with me, Jack and Chelsea. Jack is

an ADHD coach, and Chelsea has ADHD and was coached by Jack. Also, Chelsea is an intuitive eating coach,

and calls Wine Em the intuitive eating of budgeting, which, y'all know, I love to hear that.

The anti-diet, if you will. And Jack and Chelsea both talk about what it's like to try and manage money with ADHD

and what that might look like for people. They talk about how we, having something kind of always top of mind

for someone that struggles with ADHD really is key. One needs to make it fun, how we should look for community,

and find support. But at the end of the day, we have these two phenomenal people that went from

really not knowing what's going on with their money, in debt, kind of going the wrong direction, that worth style,

and now they've both turned it around independently of each other, although they're totally friends

and supporting each other along the way. They have this little Wine Ab ADHD support group,

and it's just, it was awesome. It was an awesome conversation. So, if you know someone that you think,

I, I, you know, one of my good friends, they have ADHD. Maybe that's the angle you would take to talk to him about Wine Em.

Or maybe you do, and you're like Jesse Dove. Of course, that's why Wine Ab works so well for me. I don't know.

But it was a phenomenal conversation, and I couldn't be happier to have Jack and Chelsea on the show,

so without further ado, Jack and Chelsea talking about Wine Ab and ADHD.

All right. I have Chelsea and Jack here. Chelsea is, Jack is Chelsea's ADHD coach,

and Chelsea reached out to us and said, hey, I have a little bit of a story. So Chelsea, let's kick it off with you.

Tell everyone just a little bit about yourself, and then we'll, we'll jump it over to Jack.

Yeah. Awesome. My name is Chelsea. I'm an intuitive eating counselor and anti-diet coach,

and I was first introduced to Wine Ab about three years ago, and I do also have ADHD,

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