Welcome to the Fat Emperor podcast.

I'm your host, Ivor Cummins.

Hey guys, we're back again with Sean Baker, M.D.

a surgeon who went carnivore several years ago.

So many of you may have heard his interesting experience,

but I'm gonna check back in that

because we haven't talked in a good while

and see how things are going and what's the kind of political world of meat eating and, you know,

environmentalism and the health effects he's seeing and all of his followers who have gone towards

his style of life and just generally find out what the lowdown is. So, Sean, great to see you again.

I agree. It's always good to see you again. Ivor is always good to see you again.

Thank you.

And look forward to having this chat.

Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, I think the last time maybe we met, we were at some big barbecue, a lot of meat.

And I think I was in the back of the car with you and Dr. Paul Mason from Australia.

I think it drew in my head or something. I fell asleep. Paul did that so. It was Paul. Well,

I have a perfect canvas to draw on, I'll have to say. It was a very rude thing that was drawn as well,

but we needn't get into it here so it was good for that yeah

it's it's nice to have some levity in these kind of non funny times that we're we're going through

yeah yeah they were good times that was we're all like packed into restaurants and all that but

anyway we get back there hopefully so, I was thinking we go through the

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