Alright, butter me up, put me in the oven and happy Thanksgiving.

This is Chad Kroger coming in with the Go & Deep and Chad JT podcast.

I'm here with my Compadres on Thomas, what a boom clap stokers.

We are here with Ryan Holiday, best-selling author.

Author of Stillness is the key.

JT and I both read it fully and we are stoked on it.

I still have a couple of pages to go, but I loved it.

Yeah, it was like a much needed shot of wisdom.

Yeah, it really sort of came at a central time because it was a time when I was letting

love ego come into my life and this reminded me to remind myself of what's important

in terms of relationships and gratitude and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, I sort of say in the book, ego is the opposite of Stillness because as much as

people think it's confidence, it's actually deep insecurity and anxiety all the time.

You're going around comparing yourself to other people you're going around thinking

everyone's talking about you and of course they're not.

So yeah, I think we live in a time that obviously encourages ego clearly from social media

and everything.

That's very cool to hear.

Yeah, it's kind of because we sort of live in the social media world.

That's part of our job.

As we've sort of climbed higher, I guess, it's, you talk about in the book is sort of,

you let your possessions own you.

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