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This Wreckage

Ep 95 - Haiders to the Left w/ Asad Haider

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2020

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Jamie and Sean speak with Asad Haider (@generalityiii), editor at Viewpoint Magazine and author of "Mistaken Identity: Race and Class in the Age of Trump" about depoliticization, the left post-Bernie, and that eternal question, "what is to be done?" Contains spicy (read: nuanced and informed) takes on "mass politics" vs "subcultural politics," the necessity of abolishing markets, the party question, and our favorite thing besides communism, punk rock.

Further reading:

https://www.viewpointmag.com/2019/12/16/on-depoliticization/

https://www.viewpointmag.com/2020/03/16/what-is-political-power/

https://dsaemerge.org/reflections-on-bernies-loss/

Jamie and Andy will be moderating a panel for Red May (virtual edition) entitled "Corona Virus and the Future of Work" w/ Aaron Benanav, Magally Miranda and Annie McClanahan on Thursday, May 7 at 9pm ET! Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0m0_CwVDzM

Outro music: The Ramones - "I'm Against It"

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Yeti Bata where unrest is best.

0:13.4

I'm Jamie Peck.

0:14.9

I'm Sean Kibi.

0:16.6

And we are here today with Assad Hader.

0:19.8

He is the author of Mistaken Identity, Race and Class of the Age of Trump, as well as editor

0:26.4

a Viewpoint magazine.

0:27.4

Very cool Marxist magazine.

0:29.6

How you doing, Assad?

0:30.9

I'm all right.

0:31.4

Thanks for having me. Thank you so much for coming. We should

0:35.1

mention we had your brother on a few shows back. I guess we're working our way

0:39.8

through the Hader family. And funnily enough, we had him on to talk about Bernie Sanders campaign that seemed to be winning at the time.

0:52.0

We were kind of trying to unpack what the campaign all meant,

0:55.9

the strategies at work, what it means for the future, and lo and behold a couple weeks after that,

1:01.3

the bottom fell out. and Joe Biden is the not even just the

1:05.5

presumptive nominee it seems like he's going to be the nominee at least until they

1:09.6

replace him with Hillary Clinton at the convention. Oh boy.

1:13.3

I would love to see them.

1:14.5

I don't think that even they would try that, but I don't know.

1:18.1

Like I've given up on trying to predict what the future holds.

1:20.7

Assad, did you see that article that came out a couple days ago on the hill where it was a political

1:26.0

strategist seriously talking about why Hillary Clinton should be his VP pick and why she should take over for him at the convention?

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