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Michael Covel's Trend Following

Ep. 95: Chris Kacher and Gil Morales Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Business, Investing

4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2013

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

My guests today are Chris Kacher and Gil Morales.

Kacher is the co-founder of TriQuantum Technologies, a holding company for KJA wherein he is the lead portfolio manager. Dr. Kacher's metrics have called every major top & bottom in bitcoin since 2011 to within a few weeks of the top. He was up in 2018 vs the average performing crypto hedge fund at -54% (PwC).

Morales was personally recruited by Bill O'Neil himself to join William O'Neil + Company, Inc. as a Vice -President and Manager of the Institutional Services Division, responsible for advising over 600 institutional investor clients, and as an internal portfolio manager responsible for managing a portion of the firm's proprietary, internal assets. From 1997 to 2005 he achieved a return of approximately 2100% in his portion of the firm's proprietary account. In 2004 he was named Chief Market Strategist at William O'Neil + Company, Inc.

The topic is their book In The Trading Cockpit with the O'Neil Disciples: Strategies that Made Us 18,000% in the Stock Market.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • The "O.W.L." ethos, and the story behind it
  • Reversion to the mean mentality, and how it can often be the kiss of death for traders and investors
  • Trading psychology, the idea that "you must lose to win", how the least important statistic is your percentage of gains v. losses in your trading account
  • Dealing with emotionalism and why clients often want to hear something that will make them feel better
  • Teaching people to let go of the news and simply watch the price action
  • Why people think that "this time is different", put their trust in the central economy, and why trend following will survive into the future
  • Understanding that investing is always a process of changing along the way
  • What mental clutter in the way of fears, biases, concerns and more can build up in the mind and get in the way of clear and decisive decision-making

Jump in!

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I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

0:10.9

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

0:21.2

I am your host, Michael Cobell.

0:24.0

Not filtered, raw, honest.

0:27.3

That's my passion.

0:34.0

Today on the show I have Gil Morales and Chris Catcher,

0:42.2

and their new book is called In the Trading Cockpit with the O'Neill Disciples.

0:46.7

And they're referring to William J. O'Neill of IBD fame.

0:48.7

So I think it's a pretty good conversation.

0:50.4

And sit back, enjoy. And this is my first new podcast for 2013.

0:55.4

Enjoy.

0:59.4

Hey, Chris, how are you?

1:05.2

I'm good, Mike.

1:06.2

Nice to meet you.

1:07.6

Nice meeting you, too.

1:08.8

Gil should be on, because I've called him as well. Okay.

1:11.9

Here I am. Hey, Gil. What's up? Hey, hey, Michael. How's going? Not too much. How was,

1:17.6

are you back from Thailand? No, no. I'm leaving February 1st and it's, uh, I'm going for five and a half

1:24.6

months and it's more than just Thailand. Oh, cool.

1:27.7

Yeah.

1:27.9

So you're going throughout Asia then.

1:29.4

Yeah.

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