The Tom Woods Show, episode 945.

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Hey everybody, Tom Woods here. Talking about startup societies today with the co-founder and

CEO of the Startup Society's Foundation, Joe McKinney, they are holding the Startup Society's

summit next month. That's August 2017 at City College in San Francisco, and we'll have the

details at tomwoods.com slash 945. Joe, welcome to the show. Hi, Tom. I'm glad to be here. I'm curious about this topic of

startup societies. In a way, it runs completely counter to every conservative instinct I have.

And yet, on the other hand, I feel like, well, the old-timey societies ain't doing me any good.

So I've got to look for what might work. So first of all, what is it that all these different sorts of topics that are, as a matter of fact, going to be covered at your event in August?

What do they have in common?

So a startup society is any form of new experimental government located in a small geographic area.

So it isn't really tied to any sort of ideology,

conservative or non-conservative, liberal or illiberal. Basically, the point is to have as much

experimentation as possible, which is what small governments tend to lend to.

Okay, so maybe if you could give us an example, just start with one example so that we

can get a sense of what you're driving at. So the most successful startup society in recent history

was actually Shenzhen. After Mao Zedong's cultural revolution, people were starving. They were

literally eating bark. And his successor, Deng Xiaoping, decided, well, we need to do

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