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I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

A repeat guest today, Stephen Kotler, the flow state guy, the peak performance guy.

I really enjoyed my first conversation with Stephen.

And I'm sure you'll see as this one unfolds that we had another fine time exchanging ideas.

In support of his new book today, The Art of Impossible, a Peak Performance

Primer. Stephen and I go down the path, the winding path, all the subjects, all the thinking,

the research, what it takes. It's generally not what people think. And I give Stephen a lot of credit.

He's one of those guys that goes out there, does the hard work, does the research,

digs under every stone to find those insights to save us all a little bit of time

to give us that aha moment to hopefully get us to our own flow state, to hopefully get us to

a peak performance state.

Without any further delay, let's jump right in with my guest today, bestselling author,

peak performance expert, Stephen Kotler.

Music Stephen Kotler. Here's what I want to start.

I want to read something to you, though, and I'll have to go back and listen to our

first interview.

I might have even read this then.

I don't think so, but it's a brief paragraph. It's from an investor named Jim Rogers, quite famous. He moved his family to Singapore,

to teach his kids Mandarin years ago. But he's got this quote. And I put it to my book years back,

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