Ep. 93: The Firstest Things
Young Heretics
Spencer Klavan
4.9 • 4.5K Ratings
🗓️ 22 February 2022
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
American public discourse is breaking down. On abortion, on coronavirus, on war, we just seem to be talking past each other—why? Using the abortion debate as an example and Aristotle as a guide, Spencer Klavan gets at the philosophical heart of America's first principle problem in this episode of Young Heretics.
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| 0:00.0 | And now reading from the Book of Exodus, chapter 21, starting at verse 22. |
| 0:08.7 | And if men strive together and hurt a woman with child so that her fruit depart and yet |
| 0:16.0 | no harm follow, he shall be surely find according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him, |
| 0:23.2 | he shall pay as the judge's determined, but if any harm follow, then thou shalt give life for life. |
| 0:33.9 | Okay, why am I reading to you from the skewers that have laws in the Book of Exodus, chapter 21? |
| 0:41.5 | I am going to explain over the course of two episodes, the answer to that question. |
| 0:46.9 | The top line item, the basic idea is that I want to talk to you about abortion. |
| 0:52.8 | Abortion is obviously one of our major news items. |
| 0:55.2 | We're talking about it all the time. |
| 0:56.6 | There is a big court case, a Supreme Court case, Dobbs v. Jackson women's health, which |
| 1:02.7 | is currently working its way through the courts. |
| 1:05.1 | They've heard oral arguments. |
| 1:06.8 | And if the Mississippi law in question is upheld, then that would mean overturning |
| 1:11.8 | it in a whole or in part, Roe v. Wade and Casey, these two major landmark pro abortion cases, |
| 1:18.1 | pro abortion rights cases. |
| 1:20.1 | So there's a topical element here, but this is the classical education that you never knew |
| 1:26.1 | you were missing. |
| 1:27.1 | And so we don't just talk about the stuff that's in the news. |
| 1:30.0 | We talk about what's underneath the stuff that's in the news. |
| 1:32.8 | And abortion is maybe the most intense example of something that's going on everywhere in |
| 1:38.0 | American politics and just in American life, like in the arguments you might find yourself |
| 1:42.6 | having with your neighbor or at the school board or whatever. |
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