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Welcome to The Wired to Hunt podcast. This week on the show, I'm joined by Casey Anderson, a big game hunter, a wildlife filmmaker, and a large carnivore specialist to discuss the much debated and pretty darn tricky topic of coexistence

between hunters and carnivores.

All right, welcome back to the Wired to Hunt podcast brought to you by First Life.

And this week, we are tackling a topic that I have long wanted to discuss. This is a tricky, hairy,

uh, tough animal to wrestle with here. We are discussing hunters and carnivores and whether or not

these two groups, one set humans, one set animals, can coexist. What are the challenges of living

alongside large carnivores like bears, mountain lions, wolves? What are the realities that come

alongside of that? What are the pros and cons of having these animals on the landscape? What are

the risks? What are the risks? What are the

benefits? What are the challenges inherent in trying to find some kind of balance in between?

Because there are really strong opinions on either side of this issue. There are some who think

that wolves and grizzlies are, you know, God's gift to the world and they're going to solve all of your problems and they're

going to cure world hunger and they are angels, you know, spitting rainbows and butterflies out of their

butts. On the other side, you have people that think that wolves and bears and lions are the

work of the devil and they're going to destroy ranching, and they are going to destroy

your opportunities to hunt, and they are everything that is making your hunting worse.

Right? There's some people saying that as well. There's some people who want to wipe grizzly

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