No! Hello, Fat Maskara family, I'm Jen. I'm Jessica. We've got a great episode. We're super psyched.

Guys, I chilled out with Pat McGrath and I'm going to fill you in on the Diet of the Pat chat.

She spilled some serious secrets, some exclusive news, and I want to fill you in.

Then we talk a lot about fillers on this podcast, but some of you rightfully pointed out that we don't talk enough about the downsides and dangers, so I'm going to tell you all about that stuff, so listen up. And then finally finally there's a nail decal that could potentially save your life

I need that I know so stay tuned our guest today I have a I have a little crush on him now. It is Fragrance Publisher Frederick

Mall. He was a title alone. Right? He was a dream. We learned all about fragrance and honestly, we got to watch our backs.

This man should have his own podcast. It's a great interview. I think you guys are going to love it.

So let's get into it. And then call, call, call, beat me.

Mother, mother.

Gen in sub-zero-degree weather, I put on my little booties and I hit the pavement and on

Friday morning I went out to see Pat McGrath but I was hoping to see you.

Oh I got to see her that day too but I was in the afternoon session. Oh, I got to see her that day too, but I was in the afternoon session.

She's launching fab new product.

That's part of it.

Her Decidence Pala, it's one of the Mothership Pala, the fourth one,

and these gorgeous mat trans lipsticks and you can see

me wearing vendetta on our Instagram it's stunning red and that's coming at the

18th as well yes but the real thing was the QT with Pat.

QT. Quality time.

Like you had one-on-one time with Pat?

Yeah, we have a little cozy, cozy couch chat.

Where was I?

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