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This Wreckage

Ep 91 - N95 Mask of the Red Death w/ Peter Frase

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Music, Arts

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2020

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Jacobin columnist and Four Futures: Life after Capitalism author Peter Frase indulges us in some speculation about the world of tomorrow--which will be anything but a return to "normal."

Those changes will be dependent on type of class and ideological struggles that emerge in the next several months. With exterminationism looming around the ideology of "scarcity and hierarchy," it is up to us to imagine what kind of better reality might come out of this dark moment.

Frase's article from Jacobin, the Party of Death: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/03/coronavirus-economy-public-health-exterminism

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Closing song: Gun Club - Death Party

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Antifada where unrest is best. I'm Jamie Peck. I'm Sean K. B. I'm AP Andy. And we're here with a guest

0:16.0

Peter Frese today. He is the author of Four Futures and a writer for Jacobin as

0:21.8

well as a number of other publications.

0:24.4

How you doing, Peter?

0:26.0

Good, thanks for having me on to your internet chat space.

0:31.0

It's all internet chat spaces now. I never before this pandemic

0:36.8

used Zoom before but I've been on like seven Zoom calls in the last week because

0:41.6

that's kind of all you can do now.

0:43.0

Yeah, I mean, you've all seen the memes, right? How Zoom is like the real culprit behind

0:49.6

this global pandemic? Oh, it's like a false flag they let the virus out so they could make

0:57.3

more business. Yeah their stock prices are going up up up up. Oh yeah well that was one of

1:01.8

the stories right with the senator one of the

1:05.0

senators who sold off their stocks after getting briefed about the pandemic not

1:08.1

only do they sell off stocks but they bought stock in like remote meeting companies

1:11.6

oh right right they sold a carnival cruise stock and delta stock

1:16.9

and bought giliad pharmaceutical stock and zoom stock.

1:19.9

I'm not even kidding.

1:20.7

No, I know.

1:21.7

But it was a blind trust, so.

1:23.0

Little did they know that Carnival Cruise Lines is going to be just fine.

1:28.0

Because as our friend Matt Crisman said, it's harder for people to imagine the end of capitalism than the end of Carnival Cruise lines

1:35.6

Wait, did I fuck that up? I fuck that up. It's easy, you know what I mean?

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