Hello and welcome to Teen Mom Trash Talk. I'm your host Tracy Carnazzo. Join by my co-host Noelle Wintershawzog. Hi. We have a really special guest today. Really special. Pretty special. Fucking pumped. The specialist. The specialist. Specialist guest we've had so far. Specialist guest we might ever have. Ever.

This interview. I don't I think we're shut down. Yeah, I don't even know where I'm going to be scandalous. This is going to be incredible. Guys we have Kailan the studio. Hey guys. Okay now what we have to act like we didn't just talk about everything for the past two years. I literally met you one second ago. I have never met you before. This is a very professional setting and I know nothing about you. I don't even are you you're on a show?

What show is that? You're on Are You the One? Right. Yeah. Perfect. You're on catfish. Do you watch catfish? I do watch catfish. I love catfish. Did you see the last one with the guy with the tiny little shorts? No. Oh, you see that? Your life will change. Yeah. So there's no more max. I know that maybe you know what? Neve tweeted something and it was like looking for a co-host and I really want to do it. I didn't pick me. That's not right. He should have picked me. I'm a good catfish.

I think Tyler wanted to do it also from OG. Really? Yeah. I saw his story. Tyler would be good at that. I wanted more retains than him but he might have gotten more than me but we both didn't get picked. Do you have who is the most followers on T-Mom 2? Chelsea. Right. Okay. I know that. That's right. Yeah. She's like I feel like her and Macy are like the face of the franchise. You mean the most boring? The most. I love them. No, we love them too. We're talking about it. I would say they have their shit together.

The thing is like I don't want to watch you have a happy marriage. You want to watch us have three baby dads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm glad. I got to tell you I'm going to say it right now. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. We love your children. I feel like you did it for us. I did it for the fam. Lots was for us. Lots was definitely for us. We're like all right. You got to I mean you married one of them. The other one like you can have problems with anything else.

You need something else. Is there anyone that you could have like some kind of a problematic relationship with and you were like you know what guys I got you. Yeah. Exactly what happened. You guys really just that's exactly what happened. She's out for the fans. That's what we appreciate you. Yeah. You are super fun. Super down to earth. I would I'm not fun on the show. No. Just in real life. You're a funner in real life. The thing is like I think that I've been a fan of yours since day one. You have been.

I have and you're like you're crazy because she was a kale hater. I did me a little bit a little bit but just but that was what you're the bus. That was when killed. Yeah. So when you were younger you were an awful person. You were a tower. I don't know if I don't agree. You did some I mean some awful. Yeah. Okay. I don't think you were an awful person. I think you did some shit that we were like what is this. Right. Fair enough. So we know what we see on.

Camera we know what we see edited. We want to know this like in this interview we want to talk about what we don't see. Okay. Like real kale. So you're gonna ask me questions or I'm just gonna like start talking. I mean we have some things that we want to discuss with you. So you know we went back not too long ago and so on the off season of Teen Mom we went back and we reviewed some of the Teen Mom the 16 impregnance. Yes. Oh God. And we went back to you. Okay. Yes. And we you know what it is. It's been so long that I think the fans.

Forget where you came from. Right. So we see you now and we see like oh she's a kick ass Mama three and like you have your shit together. Yes. I try. You could do it. You don't and like maybe you even feel like you don't sometimes but what we see is that you really do have your shit together. You know what I mean like three good kids and nice house like a nice. I agree. Right. Yeah. I mean I paper you're great and I think that you're handling yourself very very well. So much better now than before. Okay. But this is something that people forget. People forget like

when you see you you know 10 years ago you were 16. Yeah. How were you when you were 16? Awful. Awful. I was I was a wild child. It made this me I don't have many children. I can't believe I don't have more than children. Yeah. You know what I mean like I can't for these anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a record. Right. I don't know. I don't have a record actually either. Have you ever been arrested? I have. What'd you do? I actually didn't do anything. I will. That's what they all say. Let me laugh. Let me laugh. Let me not laugh.

No one's going to listen to this. No. I got in a fight with my mom and she called the cops on me but it was her. Okay. I'm not super surprised at that. Right. That was the only time that I can think of that I was arrested and I was just in a holding cell overnight. That's not so bad. I was also already pregnant. Really? And she called the cops on you. She was under the influence. Okay. Her and her boyfriend are awful. That's super awful. So I think that some of the stuff with you and your mom. Noelle could kind of relate to. Oh yeah. Noelle's had like you know in an on and off again. Well at least she was

like with an alcoholic. My dad was an alcoholic. So it's like we see things that you go through and I think that people are so quick to judge. Oh yeah. They forget that stuff but they never put themselves in your shoes. Like you know I'm 34 years old. So when I see even like I'm watching young and pregnant now and they're much younger than us. And I'm like oh well I wouldn't have done that. Right but it's like. And I'm like okay. I'm 34 right now. I'm doing that. But maybe at 18 years old. Oh yeah. I would have done all of the things. Yeah. I would have done every every

single thing. So what are things that you get upset that people portray you as? Like what you know. So I think just watching the show I'm very like stone faced. Sure. I come off very cold. So people think that I just am a bitch all the time. Right. But truly like I can't even tell you I would give anyone the shirt off my back. Right. So you're a really good friend. I could be a better friend.

A lot of times it's people that I don't even know or that people that I really shouldn't be helping that would never even jump a puddle for me. That's my life. Yeah. I'm so and people that don't know me. They don't know that about me because it comes across so cold on the show. But a lot of times it's because I'm going through something personal and I don't want to be filming in that moment. Okay. Just this week they texted me yesterday. They're like we're on our way filming. We're on our way to film. And they don't get you warning. Nobody told me. So now you could be in like the worst mood. Yes. And so then it's just like the worst time like my divorce was

horrible. Right. You know I was at the time I feel like 17. I felt like I was in love with Joe and he was cheating on me. Right. So they never showed the part that he was cheating on. No, of course that's because you look at it. Right. And so you're dealing with okay I know that he's cheating on me. They're not talking about it. It's not being spoken about. So now what do you say to that? Do you say something to the producers? Do you say something to what can I really can't do anything about it? Right. There's nothing you could do. They don't care about your input. Do you treat it at that point and say,

hey guys, Joe is cheating on me. But I've noticed that people don't care about the tweets. Right. Like after the fact they just and also not all the viewers have Twitter or they're not on social media. So they don't necessarily see everything that's on the show. Right. So when you're tweeting, you're tweeting to like the fanatics. Like I remember Chloe Kardashian just tweeted about like all the stuff with Tristan, but it's like people don't care. Right. Because we know what we know from the media. Sure. I hate Tristan. Do you really? I hate them. Why? Because Chloe Chloe was like a week before giving

that day. She gave birth the next day and she was cheating on her, right? And it was like calling camera. Yeah.

Yeah. That's not cute. No, it's awful. And she's been through enough. Yeah. You know, in life, she deserves a break. Yeah. No, I agree with that. You know. So there's nothing you could do. Like see, that would drive me insane. Yeah. That there's nothing you could do. Like, okay, for example, with my divorce stuff. I, hobby and I, I talked about it and was like, we're not going to talk about what each other's done because essentially we both fucked up. Sure. So

I just basically was like, I'm not going to film about it. I'll keep my mouth shut. I'm not going to expose your dirty laundry. Sure. He went behind my back and filmed about my stuff anyways, which a lot of it was film the blanks. He was kind of making up his own stuff. Right.

But me on the other hand, I'm refusing to film about it. Right. They use it anyway of him all just telling his side and me not telling my. So now it looks like your girlfriend. So now it looks like I'm guilty. And I don't have anything to say for myself and XYZ. Do you think it really looks like that though? Yes. No, what do you think? I don't really think it looks so much like that.

Because he makes it seem like he didn't know that he was moving into his new home three days after he got home from his deployment. Right. So, but they made he makes it seem like he didn't even know that he was moving out. That's sure. You know what?

He did make it look like that. But he had the latest time in the East and was moving into that new home three days after he got home. So no, why would you stay at my house when we're. I had filed for divorce in October of 15. They make it seem like.

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