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🗓️ 17 January 2018
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Welcome to the second instalment of our meandering exploration of animal rights in the Wizarding World: Episode 9 3/4 part 2! Evy, Robbie and Tylor jump right back in where we left off last week to discuss how to handle handle the delicate task of freeing all house-elves from slavery without traumatizing them, which wand cores are vegan, and the unfair portrayal of dragons as vicious beasts. We listen in awe as Tylor presents a shocking though not unconvincing case for the Dark Lord being vegan, and we also have the pleasure of interviewing Tylor and his co-founder Kathryn on their Harry Potter-inspired animal right’s charity, The Fantastic Beasts Foundation. Also on this week’s episode...
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the chickpeeps. I'm Avey-Linchoo-Lin' |
0:19.0 | This is Episode 9 and three quarters part two. |
0:22.7 | And if you haven't listened to Part 1, you need to go and do that because this episode is deeply nerdy and it won't make a lot of sense to you. |
0:29.9 | Yeah, so do listen to Part 1. |
0:32.2 | And if you have, let's get stuck back into our conversation. |
0:37.3 | Does that lead us onto the tricky, thorny topic of ourselves? |
0:43.0 | Yes. |
0:45.1 | Yep. |
0:46.4 | Oh, God. |
0:47.2 | Okay, we've had loads of listener questions about this. |
0:50.5 | Someone even said, can you even, are you even considered vegan at all, even if you enter Hogwarts |
0:56.4 | because their kitchen staff are slaves. |
1:01.3 | And their cleaning crew, like all of Hogwarts is clean because of house elves. |
1:05.8 | Yep. |
1:06.7 | Ooh, that's a tough one. |
1:08.0 | And people get confused because they're like, oh, they want to be there. And one, I don't know if she's listed, but somebody on Twitter said, how selves like what they're doing, just look at Winky. She was ruined after she was freed. And she was. She turned to alcohol and she was so depressed. And they see it as such an insult when they get |
1:27.9 | fired but they are brainwashed yeah of course yeah it's years and years decades of |
1:33.6 | it's like yeah but it's like the people that say oh cows want to give you their milk they |
1:37.8 | come in for milking at a certain time of day you know like no that's conditioning that's conditioning. That's not free will. But how selves are more |
1:47.4 | conditioned because they talk about it and they say it and they express it in the language that we |
1:52.1 | understand. Well, that doesn't mean they're more conditioned. That just means they have a better way of |
1:55.3 | communicating it, for easier way for humans to understand. But it doesn't make it any less of a subjugation. |
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