Ep. 892: Ryan Callaghan on Public Lands and Conservation
The MeatEater Podcast
MeatEater
4.9 • 37.9K Ratings
🗓️ 22 June 2026
⏱️ 138 minutes
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Summary
Steven Rinella talks with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers President and CEO Ryan Callaghan.
Topics discussed: Cal’s life as a new dad and new CEO; the BHA mission; creating coalitions, community, and giving a shit; how our natural resources are not guaranteed; politicians claiming to carry TR’s torch; throwing the baby out with the bathwater in regards to regulation; approaching rollbacks and management changes with clarity; motivation behind scrapping the Roadless Rule; the pitfalls of absolutism; corner crossing; being engaged in the minutiae; and more.
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