You're listening to reading glasses, a show about book culture, literary life designed to help you read better.

I'm author, filmmaker, and book devour,

and Mallory Omera. And I'm Bria Grant, actress filmmaker and e-reader.

This episode we're talking about long books and interviewing author Jen Lyons.

The first... What are you reading, Bria? I started reading, I've been reading a lot

of non-fiction, none of which I think I should share on the podcast because most of it I have not

enjoyed. This is all just research stuff. Research stuff, yeah.

But I did start reading a book for research, but I'm quite enjoying it called The Psychopath

Test, A Journey Through the Madness Industry by John Ronson. It's been recommended to me by several people.

I feel like I remember people talking about this. Is this where a book tells you if you're a psychopath or not?

Well, it's not like a quiz.

It's not like a cosmopolitan quiz where it's like,

Have you ever murdered in cold blood?

How many people would you say that you have stabbed?

Is it five or more?

Ten to five?

Ten or higher.

I can't remember.

Yeah, no, it is, it is, so this guy who's a journalist.

I like it because it's really very journalistic in a lot of ways.

I don't feel like he takes a lot of sides on things and he

explores some things that are kind of pro or anti psychobab he's very psychobald neutral

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