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dot com welcome everybody today we're going to dig uh we're going to dig way in on the Lewis and Clark expedition, which comes up all the time on this show. I don't know if you know. Of all the interviews you're going to do, how many interviews have you done so far?

Too many to count. Okay. But we'll get into it here for sure. Okay. This is going to be the one.

Remember how I was just saying to turn those off? It's all good. This is going to be the one. This is actually important, but I'm not as important as Lewis and Clark, not as pressing. Of all the interviews you did, this is going to be the one where the audience knows most about what you're talking about. I love it. That's a guarantee. I believe it. Unless you go to like the Lewis and Clark, uh, remembrance association or something. Well, see, I have talked to them. So, so it'll, it'll be a good time. Next to those suckers, this is going to be the most informed audience you're going to talk about, but, uh, you got a brand new book out this vast enterprise. and we're joined by Craig Fur Furman who wrote a book prior that I would be

way less inclined to read but still interesting author his a previous book author and chief

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