This episode is brought to you by Distro Kit. Hey everyone. Today's guest is Rain Madea, lead vocalist for the Toronto

Canada rock band Our Lady Peace. Rain and I take a deep look inside the writing, recording and release of the hit single,

Clumzy, taken from their 1997 album of the same name.

It was interesting to hear that Our Lady Peace rarely goes into the studio with fully realized demos, preferring

to go in with loose ideas, and allowing the songs to grow organically through the process.

I mentioned that for their biggest song, I was surprised to see Clumsie so far down on the album's track listing,

number 7 out of 11. Rain said that while everybody in the band and their producer liked the track, an initial standout. It wasn't until they went on the road opening for

Atlanta Smoresette on a Cross Canada arena tour that they knew the song was

special as to how it was resonating with fans. And speaking of producers,

clumsy was produced by Arnold Lanny, who produced fellow

Canadians' Simple Plan, whom we've had on a previous episode.

I think his production is awesome, and Rain had some really great things to say about working

with him.

For all this and a bunch more, stick around. podcast. Hey, hey, have you heard

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Hey, hey, have you heard. makes a did a lot of co-writes with co-writers back around 2005. Did we meet around them through

through Howard Benson? We did. You came down to the studio. Yep. Okay. Okay. I don't believe anything

came of that. I think you came down, but I do recall meeting that that was me that that worked with you. So it's been it's been a while

It's been a minute those were the those were memories back then, you know, jumping around,

writing, having fun.

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