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Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

My guests today, Keith Farazzi, is the proud owner of a prior New York Times best-selling book,

one you perhaps have read or heard about, called Never Eat Alone.

And that was all about redefining collaboration inside the workplace, looking at leadership

in a whole different way.

Today, Keith and I go through his newest book, Leading Without Authority, how the new power of co-e elevation can break down

silos, transform teams, and reinvent collaboration. And Keith has kind of a big picture,

simple way to look at this. We have a

choice. We can go farther and farther into our independent, isolated silos, where it's just us,

or we can commit to going higher together.

I really enjoyed this conversation.

Keith has a terribly interesting background.

I'm not really sure how it happened.

I mean, seriously, it is just one crazy ride that he has been on.

All of these experiences, all of these insights, all these different people

that he's met along the way to pull together some great books, some great insights.

He brings the energy.

He wants us to improve.

But damn it, we need that message.

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