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Rudy Giuliani and President Trump play defense.

And Chuck Todd goes off.

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So the big news of the day is that a second whistleblower has now come forward.

Ooh, everyone is so excited.

A second whistleblower.

Now, the first whistleblower didn't have a lot to say other than what was actually in the transcript of the Ukraine phone call.

Remember, this whistleblower, the first whistleblower turned out to be a registered Democrat who was working inside the intelligence community. It was a CIA officer, and it looks a lot like that whistleblower was working in cahoots with Adam Schiff on the House Intelligence Committee, and that the two of them were sort of playing an inside, outside game. Now, whether that's the fault of the whistleblower or whether that just means that the aid to Adam Schiff was passing the information along to Adam Schiff, and he was then pressing for information from the outside, the whole thing looked at least a little bit fishy. Well, now we have a second whistleblower. Ooh, how exciting a second. So what do we know about this second whistleblower? As it turns out, not much. Here's what the Associated Press

reports today. A second whistleblower has come forward with information about President Donald Trump's

dealings with Ukraine, adding to the impeachment peril engulfing the White House and potentially

providing new leads to Democrats in their unfurling investigation of Trump's conduct. Now, here's the

thing. What could a whistleblower even say

at this point that would radically shift the case? Well, presumably, the whistleblower could say that they

have evidence that Donald Trump specifically said that he was creating a quid pro quo for the

purposes of getting Joe Biden, not merely, targeting corruption generally, and Joe Biden as an

aspect of that, but to get Joe Biden regardless as to whether Joe Biden was guilty or not, and that this whistleblower had actual firsthand or hearsay knowledge that Trump had said this directly to somebody. And that's not what the whistleblower is saying. However, remember the first whistleblower, we already have the transcript. So what is the second whistleblower going to say that the first one didn't? Attorney Mark Zayed represents both whistleblowers.

He said in a text message to the AP that the second person has spoken to the ICs, that's the

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