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I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

Mike Devere was my first episode. And now, somewhere in the 800s, he's back on again.

Actually, he was on for a second time. I'm fairly certain as well. But wow, so cool that somebody who gave me his time so early on when this podcast really had zero people listening, I mean a handful.

And Mike, a very experienced money manager, lots of insights, a really interesting Rolodex, Mike came on and gave me his perspective.

And now he's back today with one of those great perspectives about the markets, trading, and investing that you need to listen to.

It's not the same old, same old.

It's a different view.

And damn it, if we're looking at the current spring 2020,

and you think you don't need a different view

if you think the game is the same old game,

you got something wrong with you.

Without any further delay, let's jump right into my conversation today with Mike Devere.

I'm doing well. How are you? Doing fine. Yeah. I mean, it's been a very interesting time, obviously. And

right now, I mean, the silver linies, I got all three of my boys home for a little while. So we get some good

family time. You're outside Philly. Is that right? We are outside Philadelphia. Yeah. right before I called you, I was thinking, well, I know just from memory, you've been

on the show a couple times, but I was thinking, Mike had to have been in the first 10 episodes

and I quickly pulled up my own website because 856 episodes in, lo and behold, you were

the first episode.

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