On the 12th and final day of infant Christmas, an infant gave to me.

A brand new episode from December 2023 of Glenn co-hosting an episode of

Mormon News Roundup. Yeah.

Greetings brothers and sisters,

welcome to the weekly Mormon News Roundup.

I'm your humble host

debays which is Talent on loan from COLA.

Hey I'm cutting in here and I'll probably cut in a couple of times during this audio. I just now realized he's

pronouncing his name is Dives. And I called him Dives throughout because it's spelled D-I-V-E-S. Yeah, I'm sorry about that divis but here's what you're going to hear today for the

12th gift of entry Christmas several what's it several years ago I't know, it was 97 episodes of Mormon News Roundup ago.

Whenever Divas started the podcast, he reached out to me to be a co-host with him.

And, you know, news isn't really really my thing as you'll hear me talk

about in here so I just kind of ignored it but he kept checking in every couple of

months every couple of months and he wore me down as he mentions in here, which was fine. I was it excited me. I thought okay

This is something I don't normally do looking at news. I'm not quite sure what I'm gonna say or how I'm gonna respond to things

And I'll be honest when I listen back to thing, I didn't really like the way it was all edited, but you know, it's kind of like, it just made me think about myself. And when I was a young podcaster, by the way that I said it makes it sound like I'm being

judgmental of Divis and I'm not. I'm thinking about myself and I'm thinking about the times

when I first started podcasting and it was so important to me and you

know this thing that I do as a hobby and for fun just felt like it was just so much more

important and I almost feel as I'm listening back to this now was just so much more important.

And I almost feel as I'm listening back to this now

that there's kind of a tug of war going on between that

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