The Tom Woods Show, episode 845.

Prepare to set fire to the index card of allowable opinion.

Your daily dose of liberty education starts here, the Tom Woods Show.

Folks, if your email inbox is taking over your life, manage it with sanebox.com. Check out sanebox.com slash woods. Get a two-week

free trial plus an automatic 25 smacker discount. If your homeschool program is making you

crazy and running you ragged, don't wait till next term to fix it. Check out the self-taught

Ron Paul curriculum right now.

Plus, get $160 worth of free bonuses when you join through my link, Ronpaulhomeschool.com.

Hey, everybody, Tom Woods here. Joy Pullman joins me today to talk about the Department of Education

and the appointment of Betsy DeVos as the new secretary.

Joy is managing editor of The Federalist, which you can visit at The Federalist.com, and an education research fellow at the Heartland Institute.

Joy, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

I have to admit, I haven't been able to find out a whole lot about Betsy DeVos. I know a bit about her background, but in terms of her full-fledged philosophy of education and public policy, I'm not really sure what it is. And I don't know if that's just me or because there's not as much known about it as we'd like. And I hear people on two sides of this question. She's in favor of

Common Core, so she's terrible. No, she's against Common Core. Well, I personally know a couple of

folks who know her very, very well and know her whole family, who insist to me she's an opponent

of Common Core and is totally reliable and good. But what do you know about her? What are your thoughts?

Right.

It is hard to know.

And actually this episode of trying to figure this out because I don't want to

unfairly malign, you know, a good woman to smear her name.

You know, I consider that immoral.

...