Are we seeing the revitalization of conservative civilization?

All over the world has been a massive backlash against globalization, its leftist leadership,

and its anti-cultural liberal values, and it's just the beginning.

I'm Dr. Steve Turley.

I believe the liberal globalist world is at its brink, and a new conservative age is rising.

Join me every day as we examine these worldwide trends, discover answers to today's toughest

challenges, and together learn to live in the present in light of even better things to come.

This is Turley Talks.

Many of you may have heard about the recent episode of Joe Rogan's podcast where he interviewed

the renowned Jordan Peterson, and at one point in the conversation, the subject turned to the

cross of Christ, and Peterson proceeded to explain the cross to Joe Rogan, who's basically

an agnostic in a way that's absolutely breathtaking, and that has extraordinary resonances

with the ancient Orthodox Christian tradition.

One of the things that Jordan Peterson is doing here is he's helping to usher in what scholars are

calling a post-secular age, where the secular barrier between science and religion is breaking down,

and with this latest Rogan podcast, I think we could frankly see it imploding.

So what I want to play for you today is Peterson's explanation of the cross,

and then I'm going to compare it to the ancient Christian tradition of the cross to help us better

appreciate this amazing man, as well as the rise of a post-secular, post-globalist age.

Moses leads his people out of the tyranny, right, but weirdly enough, they don't go to the promised

land. This is very weird. They go into the desert. Well, why? Well, we're all, say, prisoners of

our own tyrannical misconceptions and misperceptions, psychologically and socially.

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