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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 830 | Southern Baptist Debate: Female Pastors? | Guest: Pastor Tom Ascol

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Blaze Podcast Network

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

4.619.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Today we're joined by Pastor Tom Ascol of Grace Baptist Church to discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's annual meeting held a few weeks ago, where the big topic was whether Rick Warren's Saddleback Church would remain in the SBC after its new stance on female pastors. Pastor Tom breaks down what happened and the major arguments, as well as why Rick Warren's argument doesn't hold up against biblical standards. We discuss how God does in fact equip women to share the gospel and learn theology, but a pastor is not just a evangelist, nor just a theologian. We also discuss the failure of men to take responsibility and how detrimental that is to the church and to our roles as men and women. Then we take a look at a Twitter interaction between Senator Ted Cruz and Pastor Ascol regarding Uganda's anti-homosexuality act. Finally, we look at the civil code of the Old Testament versus our New Covenant direction, and explain why nothing is neutral and our manmade laws do need to be based on some worldview – the question is which one. Find a church: https://church.founders.org/ --- Timecodes: (01:20) Intro (02:20) Saddleback Church & SBC (11:20) Rick Warren's apology to women (22:22) Breaking down bible verses (34:40) Ted Cruz's tweet about anti-LGBTQ Uganda law (41:15) Old Testament law --- Today's Sponsors: A'Del — go to adelnaturalcosmetics.com and enter promo code "ALLIE" for 25% off your first order! Carly Jean Los Angeles — use promo code 'ALLIEB' to save 25% off your first order at CarlyJeanLosAngeles.com! Epic Will — be intentional about your family, your values and your wishes. Go to EpicWill.com/ALLIE and you’ll save 10% on your complete will package. My Patriot Supply — prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get your new, lower-price 4-Week Emergency Food Kit at PrepareWithAllie.com. --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 626 | Can Southern Baptists Be Saved? | Guest: Pastor Tom Ascol https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-626-can-southern-baptists-be-saved-guest-pastor-tom-ascol/id1359249098?i=1000565692341 Ep 128 | Tom Ascol https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-128-tom-ascol/id1359249098?i=1000442276814 Ep 765 | Can Women Be Pastors? SBC vs. Saddleback | Q&A https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-765-can-women-be-pastors-sbc-vs-saddleback-q-a/id1359249098?i=1000603031549 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:07.1

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0:09.7

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We're increasing the UK's gas storage so that we can help make energy prices more predictable

0:16.9

for everyone.

0:18.3

And so the 8 million homes and businesses who rely on us for their energy today can rely

0:23.1

on us tomorrow too.

0:25.4

That's enough talking.

0:26.4

Let's get on with the doing.

0:28.2

British Gas.

0:31.0

The Southern Baptist Conviction held its annual meeting last month.

0:35.1

And at the top of the agenda was the debate over egalitarianism versus complementarianism

0:40.7

or the role of women in the church.

0:44.1

Rick Warren, a saddlebacked church, tried to make the case that the Bible does allow and

0:49.4

even calls women to pastor.

0:51.6

While others like Dr. Al Moller rebutted his arguments and argued that women are not

0:56.9

to fill that position according to the Bible.

1:01.3

Breaking this all down today is Pastor Tom Askell, pastor of the Baptist Church in Florida,

1:06.2

who was always very in the know when it comes to what's going on in the SPC and can offer

1:11.3

us a biblical analysis of this heated debate and tell us why it really matters.

1:17.0

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1:19.9

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