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It's going down, my name is Michael Peters and I'm a staff writer at The Ringer.

I was down in New Orleans for all Star Leapins and I had a chance to talk to three NBA

legends about a few things, really.

Some generational differences who should win the MVP award this year and specifically

with Gary Payton, what the best Batman movie was.

So first up we have The Glove Himself.

Gary Payton, thanks for joining me man, how you doing?

I'm doing all right.

A conversation that we've been having a lot over the last couple days like amongst the

Ringer staff is just the fact that there is no apt way to compare across generations.

So eventually when you start talking about whether Russell Westbrook could have, I mean

whether Oscar Robinson could have averaged a triple double in today's league or not,

it's difficult to divide that basically.

It's very difficult to do that.

I don't do generations to generations because you can't.

But if I really think about it, if we take Oscar Robinson and put him in his, hey, hey,

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

we could have probably came in here and did this and I think you would have averaged 60

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