Ep. 817: Conservation Wins and Losses with Senator Martin Heinrich
The MeatEater Podcast
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4.9 • 37.5K Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2026
⏱️ 119 minutes
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Summary
Steven Rinella talks with New Mexico Senator Martin Heinrich, Ryan Callaghan, and Randall Williams.
Topics discussed: Corner crossing and the Supreme Court ruling; stream access; the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, mining, and caribou; the Roadless Rule; where to develop and not develop renewables; relative bipartisan support for nuclear energy; reintroducing pronghorn back to an area of New Mexico; the breadth of the coalition that came together around keeping public lands in public hands; and more.
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| 0:47.4 | Holy smokes, joined today by Senator Martin Heinrich from New Mexico. |
| 0:52.3 | Dr. Randall, Williams, is here, not in his normal seat. |
| 0:56.4 | Callahan is here, not in his normal seat. |
| 0:59.4 | And we're here to talk a little bit like a little state of the union stuff with |
| 1:03.2 | Senator Heinrich. |
| 1:04.8 | Senator Heinrich has held his seat since 2013. |
| 1:09.6 | He's the avid hunter and angler um in fact behind me if is a yellow super cub |
| 1:16.6 | like of the front of a yellow super cub there's a strong chance that you've been in there's a |
| 1:22.1 | one and three well no it's if i was better at statistics you studied engineering you might be able |
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