The Tom Woods Show, episode 814.

Prepare to set fire to the index card of allowable opinion.

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job. Be entrepreneurial. Get all the details at Tom Woods.com slash praxis. Hello, everybody. Tom Woods

here. Talking today to documentary filmmaker Cassie J, whom you can visit at Cassie J,A-J-J-A-Y-E.com, and her film The Red Pill,

which is about the men's rights movement, which she began investigating as what seemed to be an

interesting topic for a documentary. But she began it with a distinctly unsympathetic point of view.

But by the end of her project, she had come to rethink her assumptions about this

and about the position that men hold, for example, in the typical dispute in family court

and in a variety of other areas of society, it turns out that the story is not quite as

clear as she and many other people, no doubt, once thought. So the film is The Red Pill. You can find

out about it at the Red Pill movie.com. And I'm glad to welcome her now. Cassie, thanks for being here.

Thanks for having me. All right.

I watched the red pill.

Very, very interesting.

By this point, you're probably tired of telling your story of how it is that you went

from holding one view to being willing to entertain another view.

But at the same time, to me, that's the heart of the whole thing.

Because it's so rare for somebody to time, to me, that's the heart of the whole thing, because it's so

rare for somebody to say, you know, people I thought were 180 degrees away from me actually have a

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