Ep. 813: Joan Wiliams Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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Michael Covel

Investing, Business

4.6 • 730 Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is Joan C. Williams, a Distinguished Professor of Law and Hastings Foundation Chair at the University of California, Hastings College of the Law. She has played a central role in reshaping the conversation about work, gender, and class over the past quarter century. Williams’ Harvard Business Review article, “What So Many People Don’t Get About the U.S. Working Class” has been read over 3 million times and is now the most read article in HBR’s90-plus year history.

The topic is her book White Working Class.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

Joan explains why so much of the elite’s analysis of the white working class is misguided, rooted in class cluelessness.

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0:00.0	This is trend following radio where great thinking comes alive.
0:10.9	Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.
0:21.2	I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.
0:27.4	That's my passion.
0:33.3	My guest today is Joan Williams.
0:36.1	She is a distinguished professor of law at the University of California.
0:41.3	She refers to herself proudly as a San Francisco liberal. Yours truly the guy talking to you right now.
0:50.8	I don't know what I am these days. I'm not a San Francisco liberal.
0:55.1	I'm probably in this libertarian type camp,
0:58.3	but I'm kind of on the lambs, so to speak,
1:01.2	so I can't really affix my name to a city in the States.
1:06.2	Now, what does that crazy setup of two people get the setup of Joan and the setup of myself?
1:13.1	A conversation.
1:15.1	A conversation with its roots at what is the appeal of Donald Trump?
1:24.1	Jones book, White Working Class, Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America.
1:31.5	I enjoyed this conversation because I don't think in this day and age of this bipolar, your side, my side, there's not a conversation.
1:45.0	And even if you're listening right now and you immediately say to yourself, I don't want to listen to Joan, she says she's a San Francisco liberal.
1:53.7	Hey, hold on.
1:55.1	Hold tight.
1:56.8	Joan's pretty objective.
1:59.3	She's laying it out there and at least seeing what the appeal of Trump is.
2:06.4	Now, of course, Trump supporters know what the appeal of Trump is.
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