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The Deconstructionists

Ep 81 - Lillian Daniel ”Tired of Apologizing for a Church I Don’t Belong To”

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4823 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2018

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Guest Info/Bio: This week we speak with the incredible…the amazing…Reverend Lillian Daniel! Lillian is a preacher, teacher and writer in Iowa. While she has taught preaching at a number of schools, including Chicago Theological Seminary and Yale Divinity School, she can’t be held responsible for everyone who falls asleep in church. Her new book, Tired of Apologizing for a Church I Don't Belong To is generating international conversation about the changing religious landscape.  It continues the theme of her 2013 book When ‘Spiritual But Not Religious’ Is Not Enough about the growing number of people who claim "none" as their religious preference. Lillian also contributes to the Huffington Post, Christian Century, Leadership Journal, Christianity Today, Relevant Magazine, and Books and Culture. Lillian Daniel has spoken at the National Cathedral, Duke Chapel, Kings College, London and Queen’s College, Ontario, but on Sundays you can find her preaching at First Congregational Church in Dubuque, Iowa.  (Select) Guest Publications: “When Spiritual Is Not Enough: Seeing God ins Surprising Places” & “Tired of Apologizing for a Church I Don’t Belong To: Spirituality without Stereotypes - Religion without Ranting.” Guest Social Media: http://www.lilliandaniel.com Twitter: @lillianfdaniel Facebook: @lilliandanielauthor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjdulMOAoJ9QV-SKX7FDeFg Special guest music on this episode provided by: Tiger Drive https://www.tigerdriveofficial.com Twitter: @tdriveofficial Facebook: @tigerdriveofficial Instagram: @tigerdriveofficial Enjoy the songs? Songs featured on this episode were the singles: “Legend, The In-Between, Here We Come, & Together.” Find Tiger Drive’s music on iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found! The Deconstructionist’s Podcast is mixed and edited by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

If you're a maintenance supervisor for a commercial property, you've had to deal with everything from leaky faucets to flickering light bulbs.

0:07.2

But nothing's worse than that ancient boiler that's lived in the building since the day it was built.

0:11.8

50 years ago, it's enough to make anyone lose their cool.

0:15.2

That's where Granger comes in.

0:16.7

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0:21.9

from worn-out components to everyday necessities.

0:24.9

Call, clickgranger.com, or just stop by.

0:27.6

Granger, for the ones who get it done.

0:30.3

And I think we've bought into a false binary,

0:35.0

where the only two options are you are a Bible thumping, you know, believer who

0:41.8

does whatever your cultish leader instructs you to do and votes the way they tell you,

0:47.0

and, you know, you're that kind of Christian, right?

0:51.5

Who's trying to convert everybody?

0:53.5

Or you're a spiritual but not religious,

0:56.5

enlightened, you know, agnostic. Like, those are the options, right? And the educated people

1:03.0

go one way and, you know, and we've bought into that. But the truth is, most of us don't live

1:08.9

in those stereotypical worlds.

1:17.2

Churches are diverse places where you have all different levels of education and theology and belief.

1:19.6

But we've bought into the false binary. That keep on calling me, that keep on calling me a lodging.

1:28.4

Started out at the bottom.

1:33.8

Now they know me out in Tokyo.

1:37.4

They can see me getting higher now.

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