When you open the door, for somebody else, welcome back everyone to the vaccine conversation

with Melissa and Dr. Bob.

We are here for part two of our interview with Professor and Dr. Chris Shaw discussing

his career, his work, and aluminum, specifically dealing with aluminum and what he's found out

about it and the backlash he's received by finding this out and publishing this in papers.

And welcome back, Chris.

Thank you for being on the show.

Yeah, Chris, thanks for that insight in part one of the podcast that we did already.

So I kind of want to, I guess I want to, I don't know, maybe geek out a little bit briefly

if Melissa will permit it.

Just about your basic research process.

I'm sort of curious kind of what is it like to do animal research, you know, using aluminum,

using vaccines, and I'm just kind of curious, walk us through.

I mean, just kind of how you put together a project, how do you use the vaccines or the

aluminum, you know, how long you studying them and kind of walk us through kind of that

initial phase of what it's like to be a researcher in that area.

Okay.

Well, I also acknowledge that people have, in many cases, legitimate concern about use of

animals.

And we all, you know, almost of us do love animals.

I used to work on cats.

I didn't much like working on cats because it captured, you know, our great animals work

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